Puzzle – Clock

It’s 3 O’Clock.

What will be the time when the minute and hour hands are next in the same position (coincident)?

One way to solve this problem:  start with the minute hand at the 12 and hour hand at the 3. Let’s call x the number of minute markers from 12 O’clock to where the hands meet. The minute hand will take x minutes to get there (it travels a minute marker a minute). The hour hand will need to travel (x-15) minute markers and we know it will take (x-15)*12 minutes to get there. When the hands meet, the same time will have elapsed for both so we can solve for x:

x = (x-15)*12
x=12x-180
11x=180
x=180/11
x=16 and 4/11 minutes

There’s a smarter way to solve this problem:  you realize that there’s 11 intervals at which the minute hand and the hour hand coincide over the course of a 12 hour period, so each is 60/11 minute markers apart on the clock face. The one after 3 O’Clock is the third, so it’s 60*3/11 minutes after the hour, which is 180/11 minutes.

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5 Responses to Puzzle – Clock

  1. benkster says:

    It’s interesting that my algebra teacher spent weeks, if not years getting the class to think like the non-quant. Mechanically, logically, but not efficiently. Imagine if our educational system focused on getting high-schoolers to start thinking like quants from the beginning?

  2. nolfonzo says:

    benkster… it’s a good point. I wonder if some people are predisposed to think one way or the other – and how much of it can be taught.

  3. getmetheswan says:

    less of the quant worship please! they live in this space. of course they are going to find elegant solutions more quickly.

    there’s definitely a predisposition element to this. some people see problems differently. music as math. numbers as a landscape. spinning dancers, etc.

    education systems produce lots of bright people that can solve a differential equation if you tell them that’s the topic under test. what they fail to develop is the ability to look at a problems and figure out for themselves what knowledge area to reach into to find a solution. this ability to identify where to start is often key to solving these brain teasers.

    btw, love that none of the coding entries have responses!

    http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22492511-5005375,00.html?from=mostpop

    http://www.secamlocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/mrwatkin/isoc/twins.htm

  4. nolfonzo says:

    getmetheswan – the “quant worship” had a little tongue in cheek to it… though subtle, like all good australian humor.

    I like your spinning dancer link – I was stuck on clockwise for a while. It took some effort for a momentary switch to anti-clockwise. So what does this say… I’m a “touchy feely” guy? Are you crazy?

  5. porksauce says:

    I was stuck on clockwise with no hope of reversing it. Does that qualify me for government assistance?

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